FAQ on cessation of the JES

The following Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) were raised by the participants during the Information Sessions organised forJoint Examination Scheme (JES) students in September and October 2001. The Information Sessions were organised to brief JES students of the Institute's Qualification Programme (QP) and advise them of the alternative routes for conversion to the QP when the JES terminates on 31 December 2001.

General
Student registration

Q1. What is the deadline for transferring from the JES to QP for students who have passed or are exempted from 10 papers or more under JES?
Q2. What conversion routes are available for other students who are not yet eligible for direct entry into the QP?
Q3. Can I still remain on HKICPA Students' Register even if I do not take the HKICPA Examinations after 31 December 2001?

Practical experience

Q4. Is there any difference between the JES and QP regarding the practical experience requirement for admission to HKICPA membership? Is there any change to the work experience requirement for applying for a Practising Certificate (PC) for those qualified through the QP?

PC examinations

Q5. If I have completed the 14 JES papers, do I have to pass PC-Tax and PC-Law in order to join HKICPA as a member?
Q6. Do I have to take the PC exams if I have completed the ACCA Hong Kong variant law paper and Hong Kong variant tax paper?

Membership and Mutual Recognition Agreement (MRA)

Q7. For those JES students who already passed the 14 papers in JES, do they still need to take the QP?
Q8. I am taking the Association of International Accountants (AIA) examinations. Will I be exempted from taking the QP when applying for HKICPA membership?
Q9. I am a CGA graduate. Will I be exempted from taking the QP when applying for HKICPA membership?
Q10. Will I be entitled to any exemptions in the Chinese Institute of Certified Public Accountants (CICPA) Examinations if I qualified through the QP?
Q11. Will I be able to directly obtain ACCA member status upon completion of QP?

QP
QP entry requirements

Q12. Can I apply for a direct entry to the QP if I hold an overseas accountancy degree?
Q13. I have passed 9 papers under the JES including 1 exempted paper in the Professional Stage. Some time ago I sat two papers in Module E and passed just one of them. Will this pass be counted so as to meet the 10-paper transfer requirement for direct entry to the QP?

QP rules and regulations

Q14. How many attempts are allowed for each Module? Can I take a break after completing a module, rather than to enrol for each module session? Can a Module be skipped for a few years?
Q15. I understand that the QP module is composed of four workshops and a module examination. Do I have to take the whole module again if I passed only the workshop component but failed the module examination?
Q16. Will special consideration be given to candidates who missed the QP examination due to illness or business trips?

QP workshops and examinations

Q17. Can I get exemption from Module D (Taxation) if I have already passed the Tax papers (Paper 11H) in the JES?
Q18. What is the pass requirements for the Module Workshops and the Module Examination?
Q19. How are groups within the workshops formed?
Q20. Are workshops and workshop presentations conducted in English?
Q21. When are Module Workshops normally held? Will make-up workshop session be arranged in case the student misses it?

QP in general

Q22. Where can I go to have a look at the CLP?
Q23. Will the Candidate Learning Pack (CLP) cover all the study material? Is extra research required for workshop preparation?
Q24. What is the time interval between the four Module Workshops and between the final workshop and the Module Examination?
Q25. What is the FPE? Is the study material same as the four PP Modules?
Q26. What is the examination fee for a QP module?

 


 

Q1. What is the deadline for transferring from the JES to QP for students who have passed or are exempted from 10 papers or more under JES?
Ans. On 1 January 2002, JES students who have passed or are exempted from 10 papers of more, will be automatically transferred to the QP student register. No further application is necessary. The upcoming QP session starts on 1 March 2002. The closing date for enrolment for the March 2002 intake is 31 January 2002. Enrolment details will be sent out to you in December. You can also download the enrolment form from the Institute's homepage: http://www.hkicpa.org.hk/students/prof_accountant/index.php, or obtain it by fax request to 25289000 or at the Institute's counters.
 
Q2. What conversion routes are available for other students who are not yet eligible for direct entry into the QP?
Ans. Transitional arrangements have been set up for JES students to complete additional study to meet the QP admission requirements. JES students have a choice of completing bridging programmes which have been accredited by the Institute. These include Conversion Programmes, some leading to Master degrees, for non-accountancy degree holders and Foundation Programmes for sub-degree holders. In addition, the Institute has announced an alternative route to meet QP admission requirements specially established for JES students - Transitional Examinations. The Transitional Examinations will be offered from June 2002 diet until December 2004 diet. The details are contained in the circular to all students date 15 August 2001 or http://www.hkicpa.org.hk/students.
 
Q3. Can I still remain on HKICPA Students' Register even if I do not take the HKICPA Examinations after 31 December 2001?
Ans. Your student status with the Institute will not be affected as long as you continue to pay the annual subscription and are not removed due to disciplinary reasons. However, if you are to be removed from the HKICPA register due to non-payment of fees, you will not be able to enjoy the transitional arrangements for admission into the Institute's Qualification Programme (QP) specially offered to JES students.
 
Q4.
Is there any difference between the JES and QP regarding the practical experience requirement for admission to HKICPA membership? Is there any change to the work experience requirement for applying for a Practising Certificate (PC) for those qualified through the QP?
Ans.

The practical experience requirements for HKICPA membership are the same for those who qualified through QP or JES. That is, 3 years for recognised degree holders, 4 years for recognised accountancy diploma holders and 5 years for other qualifications.

With regard to the work experience requirement for PC purpose, there is no change to the practical experience requirements. That is, they are the same for those who qualified through QP or JES. However, for those who qualified through QP, they will take the shortest route to qualify as a CPA (Practising) as they are exempted from all PC Examinations. The content of the PC Examinations are already incorporated into the QP.

 
Q5. If I have completed the 14 JES papers, do I have to pass PC-Tax and PC-Law in order to join HKICPA as a member?
Ans. No, for applying for membership. The PC Examinations apply to those who wish to apply for a PC. For these members or JES graduates who wish to apply for a PC, they will have to sit for the PC examinations if they have not sat and passed the relevant Tax, Law or Auditing papers under the JES.
 
Q6. Do I have to take the PC exams if I have completed the ACCA Hong Kong variant law paper?
Ans.

Yes, for those who have completed the ACCA Hong Kong variant law paper after December 2001 will still have to sit for the PC-Law in the PC Examinations of HKICPA.

As for the QP, students are exempted from all PC examinations. With the appropriate auditing experience, you can become a CPA (Practising). Why don't you keep your career option open?

 
Q7. For those JES students who already passed the 14 papers in JES, do they still need to take the QP?
Ans. To apply for membership, an applicant should have completed the Institute's professional examinations and have met the relevant accountancy practical experience requirement. From 1999 to 2001, the Institute runs two professional examinations - the QP and the JES. By completing either QP or JES, a prospective member can satisfy the professional examinations requirement and therefore there is no need to take the QP after completion of JES.
 
Q8. I am taking the Association of International Accountants (AIA) examinations. Will I be exempted from taking the QP when applying for HKICPA membership?
Ans. There are currently 14 overseas accountancy bodies that are recognised by the Institute's Council for exemption from the professional examination requirement purpose. You have to be a full member of any of these accountancy bodies and have already completed their examinations to be eligible for exemption from the professional examination requirement of HKICPA. AIA is one of these overseas accountancy bodies. Council however has announced that it will undertake a review of the other 12 overseas accountancy bodies for the purpose of negotiating mutual recognition.
 
Q9. I am a CGA graduate. Will I be exempted from taking the QP when applying for HKICPA membership?
Ans. CGA is not one of the 14 overseas accountancy bodies that are currently recognised by the Institute. Therefore, you have to meet the entry requirement for QP admission and complete the QP if you wish to apply for HKICPA membership.
 
Q10. Will I be entitled to any exemptions in the Chinese Institute of Certified Public Accountants (CICPA) Examinations if I qualified through the QP?
Ans. No. CICPA currently does not offer any exemptions for their professional examinations.
 
Q11. Will I be able to directly obtain ACCA member status upon completion of QP?
Ans. In May 2000, the Institute signed Mutual Recognition Agreements (MRA) with ACCA and CPA Australia. These enable HKICPA members who have completed the QP to apply membership of the respective bodies. And this agreement will be received in 2005.
 
Q12. Can I apply for a direct entry to the QP if I hold an overseas accountancy degree?
Ans. Possibly yes. The HKICPA QP requires its registered students to have acquired an accountancy degree or its equivalent. For overseas accountancy degree holders, the Institute will assess your degree for direct admission based on a case by case basis. In principle, the degree should be a recognised degree and cover seven accounting sub-disciplines which include Financial Reporting, Management Accounting, Financial Management, Auditing, Taxation, Information Technology and Business and Company Law. Should you be required to make up any missing or lacking sub-discipline(s), you will be normally be advised to do so through taking single subjects in one of the accredited accountancy programmes or through a Conversion Programme if the shortfall is substantial.
 
Q13. I have passed 9 papers under the JES including 1 exempted paper in the Professional Stage. Some time ago I sat two papers in Module E and passed just one of them. Will this pass be counted so as to meet the 10-paper transfer requirement for direct entry to the QP?
Ans. Yes. But it should be noted that this pass in Module E should be obtained in no earlier than December 2000 Diet in order to be valid. If it is obtained before December 2000 diet, we may consider your application on a case by case basis.
 
Q14. How many attempts are allowed for each Module? Can I take a break after completing a module, rather than to enrol for each module session? Can a Module be skipped for a few years?
Ans.

In addition to the 10-year time limit to completing the QP, there are also time limits for taking each QP Module and the Final Professional Examination (FPE). The objective is to help you focus your study and achieve your career goals. For QP modules, you will be given four attempts or five years from the date of first sitting to complete each module. For the FPE, it is four attempts or three years to complete. You may however apply to Council for extension of any of these time limits.

QP offers the flexibility to enable candidates to take breaks during the course of study. So long as the candidate remains on the QP student register and observe the aforementioned time limits, he or she can choose a timing that is most suitable to sit the QP Modules and the FPE.

 
Q15. I understand that the QP module is composed of four workshops and a module examination. Do I have to take the whole module again if I passed only the workshop component but failed the module examination?
Ans. No. You need to re-sit only the component that you failed, i.e. module examination in this case.
 
Q16. Will special consideration be given to candidates who missed the QP examination due to illness or business trips?
Ans. Candidates may apply for special consideration. Generally, for reasons that are foreseeable, such special consideration will not be entertained. So do plan ahead when you enroll for a particular module or examination.
 
Q17. Can I get exemption from Module D (Taxation) if I have already passed the Tax papers (Paper 11H) in the JES?
Ans. No. All QP Modules are core modules. This means that no exemption will be given to any one of them.
 
Q18. What is the pass requirements for the Module Workshops and the Module Examination?
Ans.

A QP Module assessment comprises four workshops and the module examination. The module workshop assessments will account for 20 per cent of the overall assessment for a module whilst the module examination accounts for the remaining 80 per cent. The respective pass requirements for the Module Workshops and the Module Examination are as follow:

¡P A minimum of 50 per cent of the workshop assessment marks; and
¡P A minimum of 50 per cent of the module examination marks.
 
Q19. How are groups within the workshops formed?
Ans. Each workshop group comprises about 20 students led by 2 workshop facilitators who are experienced members. The workshop facilitators will divide the workshop group into five sub-groups of 4-5 members each with a good mix of student background to facilitate discussion, team work and development of generic skills as well as technical knowledge.
 
Q20. Are workshops and workshop presentations conducted in English?
Ans. The official language medium for workshops is English. Candidates are expected to speak and give individual presentations in English when addressing the whole workshop group. However, Chinese is allowed for discussions within the sub-groups.
 
Q21. When are Module Workshops normally held? Will make-up workshop session be arranged in case the student misses it?
Ans.

Workshops will be held during weekday evenings or Saturday/Sunday mornings, afternoons and evenings. Workshop dates will be publicised well in advance in Module Enrolment Form, the Institute's Journal as well as the Institute's homepage, to enable candidates to plan ahead.

Candidates who are prevented, by illness or misadventure, from attending a workshop may apply for special consideration by the HKICPA. Only in very special circumstances, the HKICPA may arrange for a candidate who missed a workshop session to make up at a temporary group, if it can be arranged. A written request for the transfer must reach the Institute at least 5 working days before the scheduled workshops and also an administrative charge of $250 has to be paid for each request.

 

Q22.

Where can I go to have a look at the CLP?
Ans. Ans CLPs are available for perusal at the Institute's Library situated on the 17th Floor of Belgian Bank Tower in Wanchai. CLPs are also available for sale at the Institute's service counters at $500 for HKICPA member/student and $650 for non member.
 
Q23. Will the Candidate Learning Pack (CLP) cover all the study material? Is extra research required for workshop preparation?
Ans. On commencement of a module you have enrolled, you will receive a CLP that provides all the guidance necessary to complete the module. However, it is not intended to be a know-it-all pack as one of the QP objectives is to develop your research skills. You are required to research on relevant areas on top of the background reading for updates of standards, legislation and texts to prepare for the workshops.
 
Q24. What is the time interval between the four Module Workshops and between the final workshop and the Module Examination?
Ans. A QP Module usually lasts about 15 weeks with the Module Examination being held normally on the 16th week. The first module workshop will usually be held on the 3rd week after module commencement date, whilst the remaining three workshops will be held about 3 or 4 weeks from the previous one. This time spread will give students sufficient time to prepare for each workshop. Candidates should always refer to the exact workshop dates that are publicized in advance in Module Enrolment Form, the Institute's Journal as well as on the Institute's web page.
 
Q25. What is the FPE? Is the study material same as the four PP Modules?
Ans.

FPE will conclude a QP candidate's professional examination requirement for the HKICPA membership. After successful completion of the four QP modules, candidates are eligible to take a six-hour open-book FPE. This is taken in two sessions of three hours each, with half-an-hour given to reading time. The FPE covers the four QP Module syllabuses and will test candidates' ability to deal competently with professional-type situations, involving the integration and application of knowledge and skills from any part of the four modules and across all areas of competency. To pass, a candidate has to demonstrate a level of skills and knowledge appropriate for a competent practitioner. The format is as follows:

Session I comprises : - A Case Study 75%
  - An Essay 25%
     
Session II comprises : - 1-3 Case Studies 75%
  - An Essay 25%
 
Q26. What is the examination fee for a QP module?
Ans. The enrolment fee for the four QP Modules is $3,500 each. No extra module examination fee is required. Should a candidate pass the workshop component but fail the module examination, he needs to re-sit only the module examination at a subsequent session and pays only $1,300 examination fee for the module. On the other hand, should the candidate pass the module examination component but fail the workshops, he needs to re-sit only the workshop component by paying just $3,000. In either case, an update CLP will be provided.